Monday, February 9, 2009

That's my argument.

I want to consider the following post again:

"Washington Post Crashed-and-Burned Watch (David Ignatius Edition)

David Ignatius does not seem to understand the difference between the words "know" and "fear." It's an important difference.

Ignatius writes:

David Ignatius - The Death of 'Rational Man': What allowed some people to see the financial crash coming while so many others missed its gathering force? I put that question recently to Nouriel Roubini, who has come to be known as "Dr. Doom" because of his insistent warnings starting in 2006 that we were heading into a global firestorm.... Roubini knew two things: Housing prices wouldn't keep going up forever, and when they went down, they would take a big piece of the financial system with them. From then on, it was a matter of watching the data...

The problem--OK, one problem--is that David Ignatius does not appear to know that (the very smart) Nouriel Roubini also feared and also insistently warned, earlier, of an even bigger financial crash that did not happen:

Roubini and Setser, February 2005 http://tinyurl.com/dl20090207: [In the early 2000s] The Federal Reserve responded aggressively to the sharp falls in US equity markets, and the Bush Administration added a massive fiscal stimulus to the Fed’s monetary stimulus: as Ken Rogoff (2003) has noted, the US recovery was the best recovery money could buy.... [F]oreign central banks were unwilling to let their currencies fall against the dollar, and intervened massively... a seemingly unlimited credit line from the world’s central banks funded the expansion of the US fiscal deficit, preventing the growing stock of Treasuries from crowding out private investment....

A cooperative grand bargain... offers the best chance for unwinding of the US external imbalance without a sharp deceleration of US and global growth. However, such a bargain looks increasingly unlikely.... China may be willing to add $240 billion, or even $300 billion, to its reserves for another year. We doubt it will be willing to do so for two more years.... [T]he risk [of] a disorderly unraveling... a sharp correction of the US dollar and of the US bond market, a surge in US long-term interest rates, a sharp fall in the price of a wide variety of risky assets (such a equities, housing, high-yield bonds, and emerging market sovereign debt) – are growing. Such an unraveling could result in a sharp economic slowdown in the US. It will force countries that now depend on US demand growth for their growth to adjust as well...

Why oh why can't we have a better press corps"

I don't want to be unfair. I thought that I posted a comment on this post, but it's not there. So, let me reiterate my points:

1) "The problem--OK, one problem--is that David Ignatius does not appear to know that (the very smart) Nouriel Roubini also feared and also insistently warned, earlier, of an even bigger financial crash that did not happen"

Is this a fair comment? I don't believe so. In fact, I consider it a form of a logical fallacy, called poisoning the well:

"A poisoned-well "argument" has the following form:
1. Unfavorable information (be it true or false) about person A (the target) is presented by another. ("Before you listen to my opponent, may I remind you that he has been in jail.")
2. Any claims person A then makes will be regarded as false, or taken less seriously."
It is irrelevant to the issue at hand whether or not Roubini has been wrong before. The only question is whether or not he is correct in this case. This point is commonly seen in courts, where previous actions or statements are often ruled irrelevant or prejudicial. If Ignatius were claiming that Roubini is a seer, and never wrong, the then point would be relevant.

2)" does not seem to understand the difference between the words "know" and "fear." It's an important difference"

Only if you take the word "know" to be equivalent to the word "certain", which it isn't. Let me give an example:

I come into a room and see you, I then say"I knew that you were here".
You could answer "You knew no such thing, since I just decided to come in here two seconds ago". Here, you are taking "know" to be "certain", and saying that it was impossible for me to be certain.
You could also answer "So I am" or "Right you are". That's because "know" can mean "pretty sure and I turned out to be correct". Here's a dictionary entry:Definition: To be assured; to feel confident.

I argue the following:
A: R could know that housing prices would go down.
B: R could know that there would be a financial crisis in the meaning of the word as "to feel confident".

That's my argument.

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